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Thanks guys for your patient explanations – some of the questioners seem unnecessarily blunt, considering you’re trying to reduce astrophysical maths to a few simple sentences. I have very few bitcoin and it won’t make me rich, but the social impact of the democratisation of finance over the coming decades is truly exciting, and using rational solutions, not the self-centred platitudes (and violence) of the socialist liberal elites.
How do I get the Private keys using the Mnemonic in Abra?
Thanks
Hi Ken, here is how: https://support.abra.com/hc/en-us/articles/217217837-What-is-a-recovery-phrase-and-why-is-it-important-
i just want to now if thers a fee if i transfer a fund to other wallet address like mining pool or trading
Please replay on this thank you
Hi Hamin,
Yes if you move Bitcoin out of your Abra wallet to an external wallet (including mining pools, exchanges, etc.), you will need to pay a mining fee on the Bitcoin network. Here is more info on fees: https://www.abra.com/fees/
For anyone who has more passphrases than they can remember (me!), I would recommend the use of a password manager. There are many out in the market, some free, some not-so-free. The commercial ones have more bells and whistles but I am very satisfied with the free pen I chose; I tend to prefer established open-source solutions but others’ requirements may differ from my own.
One just needs to remember one strong passphrase (hint: length not necessarily complexity, https://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2011/12/how-to-create-a-strong-password-and-remember-it/index.htm) and can even have some of those password managers create super-strong password that one does not need to ever remember again. There are some solutions that are platform agnostic; it works on smartphones and desktops/laptops. And, of course, make backups of the password manager’s database file and refresh copies regularly. Because of a healthy sense of paranoia, I even store secret questions and answers in them because those questions are of a personal nature, and because of almost everything being online, it’s not that hard to figure out my middle name, for example … so I make the answer as difficult as my password!
On another note, perhaps Mike was trying to determine (or maybe it is just me) how a 13-word passphrase can recover the Wallet that has been lost due to a smartphone crash or destruction or migrating to a new smartphone. Would my question be more clear – and maybe I don’t understand the underpinnings of the blockchain – if I were to ask how the Wallet is reconstructed or reconstituted from just those thirteen words?
Are they in the blockchain?
Are they in Abra’s servers?
Thanks.
Hello Allen,
Basically, the private keys are separate from the blockchain or servers. Please do note that we do not have access to user private keys nor do we store them anywhere and our private keys are 13-words. We use hierarchical deterministic wallets that use a random 12 word mnemonic using English words. The mnemonic phrase can be converted to a number which is used as the seed to a deterministic wallet that generates all the key pairs used in the wallet. Basically, the private key or security phrase is unique and accessible using the wallet’s functionality to restore the balance. All bitcoin transactions (assuming they’re the same wallet that has hierarchical deterministic functionality and does not change) are tied to a private key. Once you restore a wallet using a private key, you will have access to your funds, as they are tied to it.
Here are further resources:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mnemonic_phrase
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Deterministic_wallet
Regards,
Max
so contact me
recovery phrase wont work
Hi George, double-check to make sure that 1. you have written down all of the words in the correct order 2. all of the words are spelled correctly 3. all the letters are typed in lower-case with spaces between each word. If you have tried this and it still does not work, please create a support ticket by pressing the “Contact us” button in the app so our customer support team can help you trouble shoot.
What do you do if you don’t have a wallet? My partner has fallen for the ‘you send me’ trick and has lost our money. He doesn’t have a wallet himself, she gave him her wallet details and he literally just bought them and sent the to the addresses she sent him. Is there anyway to get these back if he still has the details of the wallets?
I plan to store my recovery phrase at the bottom of a biscuit jar – 100% immune from hacking but, yes, not snacking. Please explain how Abra protects its copy of my recovery phrase and private keys. The release of the NSA hacking software and the resultant WannaCry infection is very disconcerting. Thank you for your response.
Hi Bruce, Abra does not have access to your recovery phrase. The recovery phrase is stored on your phone and never sent to Abra’s servers. So you have to make sure you keep your copy safe.
OK, you lost me. If the phrase is only on my phone and I lose my phone, what good is the phrase?
Hi Mike, you have to write the backup phrase down as instructed in Step 2 of the blog post above. That way if you lose your phone or have to uninstall the app for any reason, you will not lose the funds stored in your wallet
I wish I would have done this. I lost only $50, but lesson learned. Thanks for addressing this issue. Huge Abra supporter.
Sorry to hear that happened Kurt, we hope these changes will make that much less likely in the future. And thanks for your support!
Etienne
1103 days agoHi there !
Just a quick question about the 13 words mnemonic passphrase:
Are the words 2 to 13 a standard 12 words BIP39 mnemonic and word number 1 the password used to generate the seed ?
Or some kind of other trick, like words from 13 to 2 (Abra passphrase) correspond to word 1 to 12 (standard BIP39 mnemonic) and word 1 (abra passphrase) is the password (standard BIP39) ?
Standard BIP39 as in https://github:.com/iancoleman/bip39
Thanks in advance for your answer
Daniel McGlynn
1098 days agoThe first word ‘At’ is specific to Abra. The words 2 to 13 = standard BIP39 mnemonic.